Monday, October 20, 2014

Blog Post 8

Catullus 11 and Horace VIII

In these two poems, Horace and Catullus each show dislike for a woman. Catullus has just had Lesbia break up with him, so he is mad with her and says he is so far removed from her that he needs his friends to go look for her to be able to contact her. He has no problem with writing about controversial things like a woman sleeping with three hundred men. This is an exaggeration, but he does not mind addressing the fact that he thinks she does not care about love and only cares about sex in a relationship. Catullus is very personal in this poem and if you do not know who the two friends he gets to go on the journey are or who Lesbia is, you might be lost and not understand some of the meaning of the poem with regards to Catullus.

Horace also has no problem writing a controversial poem, since he calls a woman an old, ugly slut and a whore. This is brought on when the woman asks what makes him important, implying that he is not actually important. This enrages him, so he goes all out with insulting her in a way that is outrageous, especially for the time. He wants her to become wealthy through her profession, prostitution, since she is so good at being a whore. You do not need to know about Horace and the woman he is describing is unknown, so there is no prior knowledge needed to understand this poem.


Catullus publicly flames Lesbia, saying she sleeps around with all the men, breaking hearts without caring for anything but the sex. Horace does not give reasons for his dislike for the woman he describes besides the fact that she did not know who he was. He goes crazy with the vulgar and sometimes distasteful insults. It seems like his poem would be mean to just be given to that woman. Catullus' poem would be for the public to see because he felt he was wronged and wanted everyone to know.

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